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Author: | restone [ 25 Jan 2011 22:32 ] |
Post subject: | S1 frame brace |
Im after a frame brace for my S1wl. Is the Banke one the one to get or are there others. Maz what brace you got on yours? Where can I get one from? Cheers Rich |
Author: | Motorrad [ 25 Jan 2011 22:49 ] |
Post subject: | Re: S1 frame brace |
None appear to be readily available commercially. Therewas someone here and on badweb some months back selling nice ones he had made up, based on one that used to be available. Sorry for the lack of precision about details, but you can find it by searching either forum. |
Author: | pash [ 25 Jan 2011 22:51 ] |
Post subject: | Re: S1 frame brace |
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=7121&hilit=brace |
Author: | chris(madrid) [ 26 Jan 2011 07:35 ] |
Post subject: | Re: S1 frame brace |
The best solution is the one Buell used eventually. Weld a bit in. The improvement afforded by the brace is stunning btw. |
Author: | pash [ 26 Jan 2011 07:49 ] |
Post subject: | Re: S1 frame brace |
chris(madrid) wrote: The improvement afforded by the brace is stunning btw. Really? What happens? I am a bit thick in this area and I am struggling to understand what good it does (apart from improving acceleration due to a lighter wallet), so please correct me. See, my understanding is that: Swinging arm attaches to the engine. Engine attaches to the frame by two rubber bungs at the back and a rubber bung at the front. Wheel centres are prevented from twisting (cos all connected by rubber) by tie bars which restrict sideways movement. Now, since the tie bars are rose jointed, they allow motion up and down and back and forth, which allows the vibration to be absorbed, but not sideways cos they are in compression/tension. What I see this brace doing in preventing the triangle, hanging down, from moving back and forth, however there is no load back and forth. At idle, you may see this hanging triangle vibrating back and forth, but is that just excitation at a resonant frequency? |
Author: | Beef [ 26 Jan 2011 10:28 ] |
Post subject: | Re: S1 frame brace |
They're probably worth half a second a lap Pash ![]() But, according to anyone wanting to improve power-thats just not what Buells are about ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Author: | Robs [ 26 Jan 2011 10:43 ] |
Post subject: | Re: S1 frame brace |
I had a brace welded, looks better than that bolt-on jobby, I might think twice about that if had proper S1W. I read it reduces head stock flex under braking |
Author: | Beef [ 26 Jan 2011 10:49 ] |
Post subject: | Re: S1 frame brace |
Yup welded in does look alot better |
Author: | chris(madrid) [ 26 Jan 2011 16:43 ] |
Post subject: | Re: S1 frame brace |
pash wrote: chris(madrid) wrote: The improvement afforded by the brace is stunning btw. Really? What happens?Before I braced the S3 - in 1998/9, I was investigating Steering Dampers. Not even entertained the idea since. I can believe it's worth a second a lap, though I'm not going to try. |
Author: | Beef [ 26 Jan 2011 18:07 ] |
Post subject: | Re: S1 frame brace |
chris(madrid) wrote: I can believe it's worth a second a lap, I was taking the piss Chris ![]() ![]() But I am surprised he hasn't been told to buy a jap bike because that's not what Buells are about ![]() |
Author: | chris(madrid) [ 26 Jan 2011 18:24 ] |
Post subject: | Re: S1 frame brace |
Beef wrote: chris(madrid) wrote: I can believe it's worth a second a lap, I was taking the piss Chris ![]() ![]() ![]() I'm now more sedate - The rocket is still new. |
Author: | daywalker [ 26 Jan 2011 21:04 ] |
Post subject: | Re: S1 frame brace |
How about someone lending Spondon440 one to take dimensions from and he could do his magic and satisfy the demand? |
Author: | Beef [ 26 Jan 2011 21:21 ] |
Post subject: | Re: S1 frame brace |
There's not much of a demand, those who want one get the welded option |
Author: | restone [ 26 Jan 2011 22:49 ] |
Post subject: | Re: S1 frame brace |
Please enlighten me on the welding option. Guage and type / make of tube, type of weld. Can any competant fabricator do it. Or would that be sacrilidgeous to a proper S1wl Come on cheif ![]() ![]() |
Author: | restone [ 26 Jan 2011 23:14 ] |
Post subject: | Re: S1 frame brace |
Who's spondon 440 anyone got a link |
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