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 Post subject: Re: Track days good ?
PostPosted: 27 Jan 2010 15:21 
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For anyone familiar with most Stateside track reg's, are the requirements pretty much the same in UK as here (oil filter, fill and drain plugs safety wired, lights covered/removed, mirrors off, etc)? This manual is a great intro to track riding, and also gives the tech inspection checklist for what is needed (at least for this organization on these tracks).


There is no requirement for wirelocking drainplugs or filters or compulsory removal of mirrors on trackdays in the UK, but you do fold them in to obscure them..


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 Post subject: Re: Track days good ?
PostPosted: 27 Jan 2010 15:21 
Geordie Mick wrote:
How did you find that track day you did with Craig Jones?

Don't think you've rated that day yet?? lOl


Which occasion?

The first (Buellfest 2000 at Silverstone) was great - my first ever time on a track, and young Jonesy was earning his first ever paypacket from Buell. He was one of the lads, taught me to wheelie on a one-to-one basis, no bullshit, great day.

The second occasion is very well documented, took place at Cadwell some years later, and alienated the tosser from the entire Buell community at a stroke. :tosser:


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PostPosted: 27 Jan 2010 15:41 
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The second occasion is very well documented


Whereabouts? In the archive or off this site?


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 Post subject: Re: Track days good ?
PostPosted: 27 Jan 2010 15:53 
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ash2 wrote:
Motorrad wrote:
For anyone familiar with most Stateside track reg's, are the requirements pretty much the same in UK as here (oil filter, fill and drain plugs safety wired, lights covered/removed, mirrors off, etc)? This manual is a great intro to track riding, and also gives the tech inspection checklist for what is needed (at least for this organization on these tracks).


There is no requirement for wirelocking drainplugs or filters or compulsory removal of mirrors on trackdays in the UK, but you do fold them in to obscure them..


Cover your speedo (disraction) and remove your reg, often there are camera vans at trackdays recording reg's, if you bin it you can anonymously take it home, leave it a week before you 'crash it' on a back road, it's not unheard of for an insurer to know it was at a trackday.

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 Post subject: Re: Track days good ?
PostPosted: 27 Jan 2010 16:04 
Digger wrote:
The second occasion is very well documented, took place at Cadwell some years later, and alienated the tosser from the entire Buell community at a stroke. :tosser:


You're a JCB-sized tease...

For those of us who had yet to discover the joy of Buell, what the feck happened, Digger...?

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 Post subject: Re: Track days good ?
PostPosted: 27 Jan 2010 18:54 
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Motorrad wrote:
For anyone familiar with most Stateside track reg's, are the requirements pretty much the same in UK as here (oil filter, fill and drain plugs safety wired, lights covered/removed, mirrors off, etc)? This manual is a great intro to track riding, and also gives the tech inspection checklist for what is needed (at least for this organization on these tracks).


Nope main thing in the uk is whether the bikes quiet enough ;) no need to wire drain plugs etc.

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PostPosted: 27 Jan 2010 19:03 
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The only thing I had to do here was remove the hero blobs. I take my mirrors off voluntarily :P Oh, and I use the speedo to see how I'm doing at key points on the track.

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PostPosted: 27 Jan 2010 19:27 
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Motorrad wrote:
For anyone familiar with most Stateside track reg's, are the requirements pretty much the same in UK as here (oil filter, fill and drain plugs safety wired, lights covered/removed, mirrors off, etc)? This manual is a great intro to track riding, and also gives the tech inspection checklist for what is needed (at least for this organization on these tracks).


Nope main thing in the uk is whether the bikes quiet enough ;) no need to wire drain plugs etc.

Another good reason to come to the UK for a track day. And then also, I also wouldn't have to worry about which side of the road to ride on!

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PostPosted: 27 Jan 2010 19:32 
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Another good reason to come to the UK for a track day.


Sod the UK, come here, the weather's better, fewer rules, and petrol is 10p a litre :P (except at the track, the robbing gits charge 20p a litre)

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 Post subject: Re: Track days good ?
PostPosted: 27 Jan 2010 20:06 
Barberdave68 wrote:
Got my 1125r back today wow what fun. I've got so much to learn about riding this bike . Anyone think a track day would help ?


Yes and No. It depends on many things.

One thing for sure is that you are not going to get the best from a track-day unless you know your bike inside out. This is so you can change the setup, as needed for track riding over road riding, without losing a lot of time. It is also a good idea to have very good road riding skills to start with. Riding in a track day group is like Scuba diving in a group. You can get held back by those with less skill and as such you can end up paying a lot for less.

So, IMO, master your bike and road skills first. Understand the cost of a track day - IE fees, wear on the bike (rubber, pads, etc) and possible damage to bike, leathers, lid, etc. None of which will be covered by normal insurance.

Oh and the last one. After you have done one remember that the road is not a race track. IMO you can learn all you need to know, to ride the road, just by riding them. A racing track is what it says it is and if you want to go very fast is is the safest place to do it 100%.

Enjoy.


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 Post subject: Re: Track days good ?
PostPosted: 27 Jan 2010 20:26 
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Bedford autodrome has started doing bike trackdays now, its a great track for a beginer as there is absolutly loads of runoff space should you enter a bend a bit quick, panic and hit the brakes, you can ride off without hitting the barrier/gravel there is at most other tracks.

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 Post subject: Re: Track days good ?
PostPosted: 28 Jan 2010 18:59 
You'll learn more about your bike and riding in one trackday than in a year of road riding. I encourage everyone to get on track, it's the safest and quickest way to improve your skills. Aside from cars pulling out, what causes most bike accidents is people running out of skill, doing the wrong thing at the wrong time, (panic entering corners, hanging on the front brake etc) doing a trackday you get to practice each corner time and again with no interuption, gradually building speed, you would struggle to not improve! The excuse I most often hear for not doing one is," I don't want to smash my bike up, i'll just go silly." No you won't, you don't suddenly get braver when you get on track, it's still you riding, you don't (or shouldn't!) go out on the road thinking you're going to crash so why is a closed off bit of tarmac any different? The experience you'll gain may well save you a crash on the road.
And it's bloody good fun!


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 Post subject: Re: Track days good ?
PostPosted: 28 Jan 2010 23:38 
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THE FLYING DUCHMAN wrote:
Barberdave68 wrote:
Got my 1125r back today wow what fun. I've got so much to learn about riding this bike . Anyone think a track day would help ?


Yes and No. It depends on many things.

One thing for sure is that you are not going to get the best from a track-day unless you know your bike inside out. This is so you can change the setup, as needed for track riding over road riding, without losing a lot of time. It is also a good idea to have very good road riding skills to start with. Riding in a track day group is like Scuba diving in a group. You can get held back by those with less skill and as such you can end up paying a lot for less.

So, IMO, master your bike and road skills first.


I don't agree with that, I'd say doing a track day is the best way to get to know your bike and build your confidence. I'd also say build your pace up gradually, take a couple of sessions to learn the track.

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Understand the cost of a track day - IE fees, wear on the bike (rubber, pads, etc) and possible damage to bike, leathers, lid, etc. None of which will be covered by normal insurance.


Agreed. There are some bargains to be had if you're willing to gamble on the weather though. Winter track days can cost peanuts.

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Oh and the last one. After you have done one remember that the road is not a race track. IMO you can learn all you need to know, to ride the road, just by riding them. A racing track is what it says it is and if you want to go very fast is is the safest place to do it 100%.

Enjoy.


Nah, the last one is beware, trackdays are addictive.


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 Post subject: Re: Track days good ?
PostPosted: 30 Jan 2010 15:04 
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mallorys close to you and well worth a visit but can i recomend darley moor, nr ashbourne, derbyshire. last time i did it it was £90 for the day and i think £50 for the half day. very small groups, i think there was only 10 of us there in total ( this was begining of october) and on the afternoon session we could basicly do as many sessions as we wanted. good circuit (if a bit primative) pretty safe and a great long back straight where you can really open it up!

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 Post subject: Re: Track days good ?
PostPosted: 30 Jan 2010 17:43 
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