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PostPosted: 09 Jun 2009 12:19 
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Outlanders like me can't directly purchase subject kit: Maz doesn't do mail-order.
Proven option to add a nipple to replacement OEM shaft end seal and install that?
Other "cheap-skate" subject tips?


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PostPosted: 13 Jun 2009 19:14 
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no you can not screw into the original seal as the center is only ruber but the cheap skate trick is to just put a sharp nife through the original seal centre, squirt in your oil and then seal the hole using a patch from a bicycle tire repair kit. when you come to do it a gain rip off the patch and repeat.


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PostPosted: 14 Jun 2009 10:04 
I used to use a syringe with a needle that was large enough to flow oil ( obtained from a friend who's son had a condition ) and then smeared gasket sealant over the hole once I was done.


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PostPosted: 14 Jun 2009 18:48 
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I do the following; make a pouring spout out of a new clear mastic tube nozzle. Trim dispensing end to a fine bevelled point. Cut an opening in side of nozzle near the threaded end to pour in gear oil from above. Cut 5mm slot in centre of pully seal with scalpel and gently insert point of mastic nozzle. Pour a few cc's of Formula+ into nozzle holding it up at a slight angle and wait for oil to disperse (may take half a minute to start flowing). Turn rear wheel in paddock stand to distribute oil then clean and dry cut area of seal. Smear with clear silicon and leave overnight to dry before riding. ;)


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PostPosted: 14 Jun 2009 21:05 
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what year bike are we talkin here and is it all xbs or the thunderstorm engine .mines 06 will i have to do mine :eat:


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PostPosted: 14 Jun 2009 21:13 
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Yes.....all Buells, especially XB's as this bearing failure will write an XB off......tis a couple of hours to sort on a tuber by virtue of the cassette gearbox :twisted:

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PostPosted: 14 Jun 2009 21:26 
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sounded like you enjoyed sayin that :maz: so ive got to cut into the seal and inject gear oil surley this has to be a desighn fault :ill: what mileage should it be done and how long do they last before you got to do it again .mines just up to ten thou :? cant you remove seal pour oil in and then replade seal with a new one or is the seal put in from the back . :headbang:


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PostPosted: 14 Jun 2009 21:56 
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New seals are 2.17, a lube plug is 10 quid.

Yes, it's a design flaw that goes back to the 1st days of the XL motor.

I do at least 4-5 tuber mainshafts every year and see as many XB's written off for the same problem.
The bearing needs servicing at least every 2.5k.

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PostPosted: 14 Jun 2009 22:18 
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Now I'm uber-paranoid! :cry:

I'd like to ask a couple of questions if I may:

1. Does it help keeping the bike upright when not in use (suspect not)
2. Is anyone in the South going up to Maz Towers anytime soon ;)


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Also suspect that bikes that only ever do short runs are more likely to suffer from a problem than ones that tend to do longer runs all the time ;)

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PostPosted: 14 Jun 2009 22:33 
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kevmean wrote:
Also suspect that bikes that only ever do short runs are more likely to suffer from a problem than ones that tend to do longer runs all the time ;)


Why?

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PostPosted: 14 Jun 2009 22:39 
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:maz: whats this lube plug were does it go and is it the best way to do it . do i replace the seal as well anyway :?


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PostPosted: 15 Jun 2009 10:47 
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pash wrote:
kevmean wrote:
Also suspect that bikes that only ever do short runs are more likely to suffer from a problem than ones that tend to do longer runs all the time ;)


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....because Kev thinks Buells that are used regularly for long runs dont trash things like head bearings etc. :lol:

Boldy, lube plug replaces the standard seal.

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PostPosted: 15 Jun 2009 17:48 
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Or more to the point longer runs mean better oil circulation and less likely that condensation forms in the oil (assuming clutch cable boot is cable tied to prevent water ingress).
Not suggesting that others leave their head bearings ...just pointing out that no need to get paranoid about them if they weren't changed at exactly 10000 miles. Mine probably are rusty ...and yes probably will notice a difference when i do change them....but it still handles ok with the originals so will be changed as and when.
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PostPosted: 15 Jun 2009 17:57 
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Kin ell, wish this fecking topic came up 12 month ago!

Nate.


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