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PostPosted: 15 Jul 2009 15:07 
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My Air Products contract is up for renewal and I'm not sure if I want to renew or get another contract with BOC. Are there any preferences between welding with Argoshield (light or Universal) or Coogar 5? Prices are similar. Your thoughts on a postcard to................

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How much do these contracts cost? I have an oxy-acetylene kit which was passed to me, but the bottles need re-filling. I think they may be BOC bottles, but I would rather take advice before getting in touch with BOC.

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Not thinking of using novel methods to cook your own pig in a couple of weeks, are you? :lol: :lol:

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How much do these contracts cost? I have an oxy-acetylene kit which was passed to me, but the bottles need re-filling. I think they may be BOC bottles, but I would rather take advice before getting in touch with BOC.

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Air Products Rental for a large bottle of COOGAR is a touch over £80 PA. If you've got the bottles you can decant acetylene from someone who has a contract. This is very dangerous (but commonly done ;) )

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Not thinking of using novel methods to cook your own pig in a couple of weeks, are you? :lol: :lol:



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No fear, it'd ruin my sex life :o :lol:

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You'd have to really, cos he couldn't pick it up himself :P

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 Post subject: Re: Shielding Gas
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Hi Adam,

Have always found for general purpose stuff that the higher CO2 content of Argoshield Universal gives a better weld than either Argoshield light or Coogar5. The comparitive AP product is Coogar20. If most of your welding is on less than 4 mm, however, stick to light or c5. I think most welders would be VERY hard pressed to notice the difference between Air Products and BOC gases. I've always gone with who would give best rates/service/etc in the past. I haven't dealt with BOC since they were taken over by Linde though.

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Hi Adam,

Have always found for general purpose stuff that the higher CO2 content of Argoshield Universal gives a better weld than either Argoshield light or Coogar5. The comparitive AP product is Coogar20. If most of your welding is on less than 4 mm, however, stick to light or c5. I think most welders would be VERY hard pressed to notice the difference between Air Products and BOC gases. I've always gone with who would give best rates/service/etc in the past. I haven't dealt with BOC since they were taken over by Linde though.

hth

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You've confirmed what I thought there. I've managed to wangle a nice little skive at work where I teach a Welding course on a Wednesday morning, at a local FE college, as long as I can take a couple of the scrotes from my school with me. They use Coogar 15 and that's struck me as an excellent all round gas. You're right, at home for light stuff, I'd probably be better off sticking with the Coogar 5. Cheers 8-)

BTW, what's the problem with Linde :?: - I've never heard of them :?

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Adam wrote:
Lordfenwick wrote:
Hi Adam,

Have always found for general purpose stuff that the higher CO2 content of Argoshield Universal gives a better weld than either Argoshield light or Coogar5. The comparitive AP product is Coogar20. If most of your welding is on less than 4 mm, however, stick to light or c5. I think most welders would be VERY hard pressed to notice the difference between Air Products and BOC gases. I've always gone with who would give best rates/service/etc in the past. I haven't dealt with BOC since they were taken over by Linde though.

hth

Richard


You've confirmed what I thought there. I've managed to wangle a nice little skive at work where I teach a Welding course on a Wednesday morning, at a local FE college, as long as I can take a couple of the scrotes from my school with me. They use Coogar 15 and that's struck me as an excellent all round gas. You're right, at home for light stuff, I'd probably be better off sticking with the Coogar 5. Cheers 8-)

BTW, what's the problem with Linde :?: - I've never heard of them :?

Bunch of bloody Nazis :roll: Spoke to a guy who works in the industry the other day- Air products and BOC cross supply wherever either doesn't have a plant so I guess that it prolly would be difficult to tell either apart.


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 Post subject: Re: Shielding Gas
PostPosted: 15 Jul 2009 18:57 
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Adam, I use BOC light at work at the mo. Not much in it but I do prefere the air products bottles as in shrouded valves should one get knocked over!
Air products do ferromax in a smaller bottle at higher pressure with a built in reg, now that is good stuff in a great package but holds more than a standard bottle.

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Nate wrote:
Adam, I use BOC light at work at the mo. Not much in it but I do prefere the air products bottles as in shrouded valves should one get knocked over!
Air products do ferromax in a smaller bottle at higher pressure with a built in reg, now that is good stuff in a great package but holds more than a standard bottle.

Nate.


I've seen your welding. V.nice :yup: 8-)

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Adam wrote:
Nate wrote:
Adam, I use BOC light at work at the mo. Not much in it but I do prefere the air products bottles as in shrouded valves should one get knocked over!
Air products do ferromax in a smaller bottle at higher pressure with a built in reg, now that is good stuff in a great package but holds more than a standard bottle.

Nate.


I've seen your welding. V.nice :yup: 8-)


That was a bit of crappy TIG not MIG. I took some of my work for x-ray last year, I came away very very humbled I can tell ya!

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 Post subject: Re: Shielding Gas
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Nate wrote:

That was a bit of crappy TIG not MIG. I took some of my work for x-ray last year, I came away very very humbled I can tell ya!

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