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 Post subject: Re: Missing my old X1
PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 12:30 am 
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Yes.....and if I had to part with any of my Buells it would be the 1st to go....and if I could only keep one of my Buells the X1 would be it.

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 Post subject: Re: Missing my old X1
PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 12:42 am 
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Maz wrote:
Yes.....and if I had to part with any of my Buells it would be the 1st to go....and if I could only keep one of my Buells the X1 would be it.


:shock: I'd have thought the Blast

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 Post subject: Re: Missing my old X1
PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:03 am 
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Nope, I have 4 air cooled V twins and the Blast is the only single Buell ever made, so that's a keeper for now......just cant understand how someone that's missing their old X1 would replace it with an S2 ?....they couldn't be further removed :?

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 Post subject: Re: Missing my old X1
PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:03 pm 
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Although, thinking about it the S2 is actually the original X1 in many ways......fuel tank under bodywork, so no paint bubbling, removeable frame section for easy belt replacement and none of that new fangled fuel injection !
I'm sure Mike will really enjoy the bike, especially if he does any touring, plus he now joins a very elite club of S2 owners 8-) X1's are two a penny :)

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 Post subject: Re: Missing my old X1
PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:15 pm 
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I like that train of thought, with a bit of tuning, what's not to like. :yup:

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 Post subject: Re: Missing my old X1
PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:25 pm 
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Yes I understand your comments Maz.

My view is that currently the only X1's available look as though they have seen quite a lot of 'spannering' and Steve's S2 has only 5200 miles and is completely stock and 'unmolested' which for a 21 year old bike makes it fairly unique in my view.

I know there are a lot of differences between the 2 but the main 'seat of the pants' difference is that the X1 has about 20% more power... This can be sorted in a S2 by increasing the compression ratio (I don't think the X1's heads flow that much better so a mild head job will possibly make the S2 flow even better), installing mild upgrade cams (Andrews N4's ?) and a race pipe (APH) plus ignition module should sort it out nicely if I feel it's too slow.

None of this work is difficult and doesn't impact reliability so all in all I think I have made the right decision :)

As for touring yes I certainly plan to put a few miles on it - I've got my IoM tickets booked so a few laps of the Island will be fun (I took the RoadKing in 16 and did about 15 - 20 fairly fast laps on it :shock: ) and I'm planning a trip through the Alps with my son later on in the summer.. Not sure how much kit I will be able to fit in those panniers though lOl

All the best.
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 Post subject: Re: Missing my old X1
PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:27 pm 
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Graeme1203 - exactly my thoughts :twisted:


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 Post subject: Re: Missing my old X1
PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:16 pm 
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Mike, pics please! I had one of these and it was most excellent for touring and commuting.

How are the inner cases? Always good to look for cracking. Can be fiberglass reinforced easily by yourself for prevention... Pics on BWB in a VERY old posting by Al Lighton. All those shit roads in the UK can wreak havock on the stock cases.

Power can be cheaply had by replacing the stock ignition module with a Squawking Chicken one and selecting a better map. I got 10 RWHP extra from that and a better muffler and a K&N only.
The stock map is shit. IIRC I was up to 80 RWHP after that. But those other mods will definitely do better. OTOH, gas mileage was pretty good at 80 HP.

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Yes I understand your comments Maz.

My view is that currently the only X1's available look as though they have seen quite a lot of 'spannering' and Steve's S2 has only 5200 miles and is completely stock and 'unmolested' which for a 21 year old bike makes it fairly unique in my view.

I know there are a lot of differences between the 2 but the main 'seat of the pants' difference is that the X1 has about 20% more power... This can be sorted in a S2 by increasing the compression ratio (I don't think the X1's heads flow that much better so a mild head job will possibly make the S2 flow even better), installing mild upgrade cams (Andrews N4's ?) and a race pipe (APH) plus ignition module should sort it out nicely if I feel it's too slow.

None of this work is difficult and doesn't impact reliability so all in all I think I have made the right decision :)

As for touring yes I certainly plan to put a few miles on it - I've got my IoM tickets booked so a few laps of the Island will be fun (I took the RoadKing in 16 and did about 15 - 20 fairly fast laps on it :shock: ) and I'm planning a trip through the Alps with my son later on in the summer.. Not sure how much kit I will be able to fit in those panniers though lOl

All the best.
Mike.

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 Post subject: Re: Missing my old X1
PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:45 pm 
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Here's a pic -

I didn't pay much attention to the case inners - but as you say a trip to Halfrauds for a fiberglass kit should sort them out...


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 Post subject: Re: Missing my old X1
PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:27 pm 
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Ooooo. Parkway Blue!!! Good score. :clap:

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 Post subject: Re: Missing my old X1
PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:34 pm 
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8-) 8-) 8-) :yup:

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 Post subject: Re: Missing my old X1
PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:57 pm 
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Miss January 2018 8-)

Good to meet you, Mike and I'm sure you'll stretch the old girl's legs more than I did :)

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