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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:45 pm 
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Finally got my self a nice shiney Black 2009 model Ulysses 8700 miles in completely standard condition. Just gotta get used to it, just ridden to Southern Spain on my 1000 Fazer and then hopped on the Buell on Saturday, both great bikes but yet totally different !!

I have a couple of questions ??

When starting, the starter seems quite reluctant to turn engine over, there's a slight delay ( I assume getting over compression) then it turns over reasonably freely and starts. Good voltage on the battery 12.8 to 13.1 volts . The dealer I bought it from said this was how they are! Is this correct?

The other question is where is the ECM socket located for EcmSpy lead to be plugged into, I looked under seat but can't see it ! Any help would be much appreciated.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:36 am 
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millo911 wrote:
Finally got my self a nice shiney Black 2009 model Ulysses 8700 miles in completely standard condition. Just gotta get used to it, just ridden to Southern Spain on my 1000 Fazer and then hopped on the Buell on Saturday, both great bikes but yet totally different !!

I have a couple of questions ??

When starting, the starter seems quite reluctant to turn engine over, there's a slight delay ( I assume getting over compression) then it turns over reasonably freely and starts. Good voltage on the battery 12.8 to 13.1 volts . The dealer I bought it from said this was how they are! Is this correct?

Both my Buells initially crank slowly, I ride with 3 friends occasionally there's all crank from cold slowly.
I think it's safe to say " they all do that Sir"

The other question is where is the ECM socket located for EcmSpy lead to be plugged into, I looked under seat but can't see it ! Any help would be much appreciated.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:14 am 
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Socket pops out of the left hand side of the sub frame under the riders leg. If you have the comfort kit fitted you will need to unclip the small black cover.

My Buells don't have a noticeable hesitation unless the batteries are on their way out.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 9:17 am 
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Thanks for the reply Pash . What is the general expected starter motor life on a Buell XB ?
I'll have a look for the lead socket ;)


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 12:17 pm 
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Dunno as per starter life, never had a problem, but they are fully rebuildable.

I would be looking for a battery when it no longer turns over...

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:05 pm 
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millo911 wrote:

When starting, the starter seems quite reluctant to turn engine over, there's a slight delay ( I assume getting over compression) then it turns over reasonably freely and starts. Good voltage on the battery 12.8 to 13.1 volts . The dealer I bought it from said this was how they are! Is this correct?


:yt: check earth connections battery to sub frame , sub frame to frame etc
I fitted another earth lead from battery direct to main frame better but still has its moments

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 9:06 pm 
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Thanks for the replies, I'll have a look at all the earth points, hopefully that will cure my problem ! :D


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:48 pm 
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Mines always been like this. Original battery - now 7 years old. No problems actually starting it ever.
Recommend a optimate or similar


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:52 am 
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pash wrote:
Dunno as per starter life, never had a problem, but they are fully rebuildable.

I would be looking for a battery when it no longer turns over...


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 10:22 pm 
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Thanks for the advice I think I'm going to get an optimate. It's never not started but its just so sluggish until it gets over compression then she's off !


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 5:46 pm 
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Check the voltage across the battery when turning over, then check the voltage at the starter motor when doing the same. If you've got dodgy connections anywhere you will see a difference in the voltages....then you can start chasing it back to find the problem.

If there is little difference and it's still sluggish then it's likely your battery is on its way out...


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 6:05 am 
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millo911 wrote:
Thanks for the advice I think I'm going to get an optimate. It's never not started but its just so sluggish until it gets over compression then she's off !



An optimate won't help this condition, put the money towards a new battery ;)


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